I am really getting tired of FEMA and their crap and most of all I am getting tired of Americans NOT understanding
What is going on in this country!!!! Apparently Gunderson steel has been doing this since 04… with Bush Jr.
FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars With Shackles! THE FACTS-GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES-A REPORT Here is a summary of the previous information circulating about Gunderson’s PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES from previous reports circulating all over the nation on this subject, which I have written. BRENT GUNDERSON is challenging my information. CAN YOU PROVE HIM WRONG??? Many people have raised skeptical questions about reports of prisoner BOXCARS AND SHACKLES being sighted across America. Some people think that they are only reported originally through Phil Schnieder in a Patriot interview. Recently, someone erroneously reported that MY information on them originated from Phil Schnieder. WRONG! My research and documentation on the boxcars and shackles goes far beyond Phil´s interview. Long before I heard of him, I had eyewitness information on these boxcars. A van full of eyewitnesses, missionaries traveling across America to evangelize and pray, stumbled across these boxcars in Montana, near Columbia Falls in Glacier. They described boxcars, in this case painted black, with shackles welded into them and a modern guillotine at the head of each boxcar inside. As they were photographing mountain scenery, they decided to follow railroad tracks into the wilderness so as to not get lost. This is how they came upon these boxcars with shackles. I later received a report from Lee Harrington of Valier, MT, who was a professional metal worker. He told me how in Glascow, MT, summer youth workers were employed to weld shackles into boxcars in that operation. They were then shipped west to Glacier and stored on remote sidetracks. Passing through the Blackfoot Indian Reservation in Cutbank, a local Blackfoot Indian, George Bullcalf, spotted these strange boxcars. When I interviewed local Patriots in Columbia Falls, they confirmed that hunters often stumbled upon such boxcars on remote train spurs in that wilderness region. I THEN TRAVELED TO PORTLAND OREGON, and lectured in the home of an actual employee of GUNDERSON STEEL FABRICATION. The wife of this high level executive called this meeting personally to make a public admission. In the meeting were OTHER GUNDERSON EMPLOYEES who had witnessed the prisoner boxcars in the higher than normal, three floor/three tier prisoner boxcars. She admitted that her husband finally told her that GUNDERSON WAS UNDER SECRET CONTRACT FROM THE US GOVERNMENT TO PRODUCE THESE PRISONER BOXCARS. She also admitted that Gunderson had a satellite factory for a boxcars with shackles operation in Texas. I called Col. Jim Ammerman in Texas, famous military Patriot-lecturer against martial law, and told him about this. He replied, “A friend of mine who is a metal welder called me recently, and said he had gone to apply for a job in offered in Texas for welding. When he was told that it involved WELDING SHACKLES INTO BOXCARS, he declined the job!” I later interviewed Russian immigrants in this area who admitted that some of their people were working at Gunderson, and one young man, Sasha, admitted working on prisoner boxcars and described them completely to his Russian Christian friends there. THE RUSSIAN COMMMUNITY NOW KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND IS VERY AFRAID OF THE IMPLICATIONS!!! Many Russians still work there. Another source, WATCHDOG, a retired military vet with a watchdog group, described yet another boxcar with shackles operation in New Hampshire, with three tiered boxcars fitted with shackles. Metal worker Lee Harrington also described 20,000 CHINESE prisoner boxcars with shackles and modern guillotines, in the form of 40 foot railroad containers, coming into America via the west coast. They were ordered by the American government through a Senator who visited China and ordered these items. Workers unloading them became suspicious and began to investigate and discovered these horrors from China. Such 40 foot cargo containers from China are now piled up along the West Coast, especially around Long Beach Naval Shipyard, turned over the Chinese. I receive constant reports across America regarding these types of prisoner boxcars from former radio listeners and Patriots across America…and Canada. Recently, a former high level satanist from the mountains of North Carolina, now a Christian and receiving discipleship, admitted that boxcars with shackles were indeed in the mountains of NC and waiting for the hour of martial law. (Asheville, NC) He warned that many Patriots and Christians arrested and secured into these prisoner boxcars under martial law will never even make it to the death camps..that many will be tortured and sacrificed once restrained in these prisoner boxcars.
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So I decided to do some more googling…and apparently I am NOT the only one… go to google and put in “GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS” and see all the articles… also note how google does their word search assist and lets you see the choices…that
Is telling you that thousands are googling those words or it would not have an assist (as in guessing the term you are searching for!)
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“We saw all these people behind the fence, looking out, hanging onto the wire, and looking out Justice Prisoner & Alien Wondering how you and your family were going to get to camp? Right now the only way that the government will cop to is J.P.A.T.S. We’ll explore other possibilities including white boxcars, buses and such but first… In 1995, the air fleets of the Marshals Service and the former Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) merged to create the Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System (JPATS). The merger created a more efficient and effective system for transporting prisoners and criminal aliens. Operated by the Marshals Service, JPATS is one of the largest transporters of prisoners in the world – handling hundreds of requests every day to move prisoners between judicial districts, correctional institutions and foreign countries. The JPATS supports the federal judiciary by scheduling and transporting prisoners to courts and detention facilities around the country, including sentenced prisoners who are in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons (BOP). The JPATS transports ICE (Immigration Customs and Enforcement) criminal and administrative aliens to hearings, court appearances and detention facilities. The JPATS also provides regular international flights for the removal of deportable aliens. Military, state and local law enforcement agencies use JPATS to shuttle their prisoners between different jurisdictions at a significant costs savings to them. On average, more than 270,000 prisoner and alien movements a year are completed by JPATS. A network of aircrafts, cars, vans and buses accomplishes these coordinated movements. The JPATS operates a fleet of aircraft, which move prisoners over longer distances more economically and with higher security than commercial airlines. Nearly all air movements are done aboard aircraft that the Marshals Service owns or leases, including Boeing 727s, MD-82s, DC 9s, Boeing 737-400s, Boeing 737-800s and several smaller jets. Ground transportation is performed by the Marshals Service, ICE and BOP. The JPATS airplanes comprise the only government-operated, regularly-scheduled passenger airline in the nation. The JPATS routinely serves approximately 40 cities, plus every other major city in the United States on an as-required basis. Detailed itineraries are required to ensure that each prisoner appears in court at the designated time. The JPATS scheduling function is located in Kansas City, MO. Air fleet operations are located in Oklahoma City, OK, with hubs in: Alexandria, LA; Mesa, AZ; Anchorage, AK; and the Virgin Islands. In addition to JPATS the CIA has a fleet of Gulfstream V’s for secret kidnappings!
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Before we begin let me first say that, unlike the rest of this site, I can not confirm any of the following try as I might. It all may be true or it all may be a delusion. This info can be found on both left and right wing Internet sites, which make it the universal conspiracy theory? Along with this comes tales of UN or NATO troops currently training on US military bases to help US troops with rounding up all us liberals and other trouble makers. In addition to the above mentioned JPATS this group includes enough “special” white and black boxcars to hold 15 million US citizens plus another 20,000 boxcars we bought from China. Not to mention “white buses” and trucks pulling portable jails beyond that point it gets down right silly. Still considering what we’ve witnessed as well as what the US government has done to people in the past this is something you should at least be aware of. To see a satellite imagine of a prisoner train complete with white box cars go to Google Maps and put in the code: 48.238048,-113.530778 you can’t go above the second click down. SUMMARY OF KNOWN SHACKLED-BOXCAR MANUFACTURE OREGON From a talk by Phil Schneider: “Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me ‘they’re building prisoner cars.’ He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is’”technocracy’, not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States….I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I’ll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it’s worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.” [Within a year, Paul Schneider was assassinated.] TEXAS a. Gunderson Steel Fabrication holds the federal contract for the 100,000+ shackle-mounted boxcars. b. In 2000, BUSH as candidate makes his way to VISIT Gunderson Steel Fabrication (IN TEXAS), (ostensibly (alibi) to give a t.v. speech about social security. Why a speech on social security had to be conducted from a shackled-boxcar manufacturing site, only Bush will know for sure…) “…Gunderson Steel Fabrication is under secret contract from the U.S. government to produce these prisoner boxcars. The company received an order from the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad boxcars with the shackles inside. Gunderson has a satellite factory for making the boxcars with shackles in Texas. Interestingly, Gunderson became the launching pad where then-presidential candidate Governor George W. Bush introduced his plan for social security reform on May 16, 2000, a major part of the current president’s platform. Apparently, Mr. Bush has some special personal relation with Gunderson.” c. 11 SUBCONTRACTORS IN SHACKLED-BOXCAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT: Quotes taken from a lecture given by the late Philip Schneider, ex-NATO geologist who gave up his 1 million dollar a year retirement salary, who has blown the whole New World Order wide open. He is assassinated less than one year after he started talking, after many failed attempts to ‘re-hire’ him. He was told he was doing ‘irrevocable’ damage to the New World Order by US intelligence agents who visited him in his Portland, Oregon apartment. ” d. PLUS, SHACKLED-BOXCARS ARE BEING SHIPPED IN FROM THE WORLD’S LARGEST POLICE STATE, CHINA: “Metal worker Lee Harrington also described 20,000 CHINESE prisoner boxcars with shackles and modern guillotines, in the form of 40 foot railroad containers, coming into America via the west coast. They were ordered by the American government through a Senator who visited China and ordered these items. Workers unloading them became suspicious and began to investigate and discovered these horrors from China. Such 40 foot cargo containers from China are now piled up along the West Coast, especially around Long Beach Naval Shipyard, turned over the Chinese.” e. NORTH AMERICANS, CANADA AND THE USA, MEET YOUR IMPORTED CRACK TEAM OF OCCUPATION TROOPS, ALREADY WELL TRAINED: INTERVIEW WITH SOME GERMAN NATO M.P.s who verify they were trained for future American marshal law plans. They mention German troops stationed in USA at Fort Bliss, Texas and Holloman AFB (New Mexico). These troops are formally associated with NATO, which has morphed in the past 10 years to become your (un)friendly post Cold War pre-emptive internationalized Nazi-esque attack organization, responsible for attacking Yugoslavia (illegal, under its own charter), and culpable in Iraq in 2003. They describe their training, and, they refuse to answer some pointed questions about whether they would fire to kill on American citizens. To this question, they refuse to answer this by losing all eye contact with the interviewer, cutting off the interview, getting gruff and stiff, turning, and simply walking off. MONTANA: a. Reports from Lee Harrington of Valier, MT, who was a professional metal worker informed us of Glascow, MT, summer youth workers who were employed to weld shackles into boxcars in that operation. b. They were then shipped west to Glacier and stored on remote sidetracks. Passing through the Blackfoot Indian Reservation in Cutbank, a local Blackfoot Indian, George Bullcalf, spotted these strange boxcars, some with open doors and shackles, plainly visible, passing through the reservation. Interviews conducted in Columbia Falls confirmed that hunters often stumbled upon such boxcars on remote train spurts in that wilderness region. NEW HAMPSHIRE: “Another source, WATCHDOG, a retired military vet with a watchdog group, described yet another boxcar with shackles operation in New Hampshire, with three tiered boxcars fitted with shackles.” NORTH CAROLINA: “Reports from our sources also confirm that railroad boxcars fitted with shackles have been spotted in many locations throughout the U.S. in recent months, most prominently in Montana and Texas (including recent sightings in Asheville, N.C.).”
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I wrote a book in the late 1990′s called Gulag Amerika, which covered this issue about the Boxcars for Detention Camps. This is nothing new; the dates given here are off the mark, and the ORIGINAL source was Pamela Schuffert. The tall railcars depicted here are ‘autorailers’, which hold up to three tiers of any type of civilian cars, SUVs, vans or pickups. The so-called “shackles” are actually steel tie-down points for securing the cargo.
Given the fact that railroads have only a fraction of the trackage that they had 40 years ago, it is not the most efficient mover of people, and since centralized locations for the loading of ANY type of rail cargo creates ‘targets’ for any resistance movement, it is unrealistic at best to presume this scheme will be used extensively. If the growing police state decides to cart away all the patriots, the more likely transportation scheme would be ‘comex’ container boxes, because of their proven utility in intermodal transportation.
However, I am disappointed by the fact that so many people stubbornly persist in repeating bad information, even when presented with the confirmed truth. For example, many people insist on reporting ‘crematoria’ at the ‘closed Amtrak facility’ in the Beech Grove community of southeastern Indianapolis, Indiana. First, the car shops are the ONLY locomotive repair & car fabrication facility that Amtrak has. It is being actively used, not sitting vacant in anticipation of “an American holocaust”. Second, the repair facility has NO crematoria; Amtrak has given tours of the facility, in the past, to groups like the Boy Scouts. As a former scoutmaster and railroad employee, I know. So, you can see for yourself there’s NO SUCH thing there. If you want to see a real, operating example of a federal facility that receives, detains, executes and cremates prisoners, you need to travel to Terre Haute, Indiana and see the federal prison there. This is the place where OKC bombing patsy Timothy McVeigh was executed.
Lastly, there’s a reason why this bad information has been put out there. It is called information warfare, and the purpose is to misdirect people from the truth while also destroying credibility. Anyone who uncritically reports the disinformation has their credibility tarnished, as does the credibility of their organization. The larger target is the credibility of the movement, and publishing disinfo allows the police state propaganda ministry (aka the mainstream media) to attack, marginalize, and demonize the movement. So thank you, Mr. Brownbill, for doing the other side a huge favor.
This is not to say that the federal government doesn’t have plans to round up American dissidents, you just have to do your own research. Strategic planning documents like ENDGAME (yes, it does sound like ‘final solution’), or Army FM 3-19.40 ‘Internment Resettlement Operations’, or the Army’s regulations for ‘Civilian Inmate Labor Programs’. Or how about the 1 billion (yes, with a ‘B’) – 1 BILLION ROUNDS of hollowpoint ammo that DHS has purchased for domestic, non-military use. This includes hundreds of millions of rounds of .40 hollowpoint, 5.56 rifle ammo, .308 sniper grade rifle ammo, and even some quantities of .50 caliber ‘big boy’ ammo. This stuff is not practice ammunition, and because so much of it is hollowpoint, it is banned by the Geneva Convention and federal law for use by our troops, so no it’s not going to the military. This info has been reported by the Patriot alternative media and confirmed independently. If you want to fact-check it for yourself, search for the articles as they appear on sites like infowars.com or theintelhub.com – and then follow their links to the FedBizOpps website showing the original purchase orders. That’s what REAL journalists call “checking your sources” or “verifying the citations’.
Perhaps with so many grassroots, tea-party styled patriot groups online, the submission of news stories has to be accomplished by citizen journalists with no professional journalism background. I am not a journalist, although I have taken some journalism classes in college and worked on the campus paper many years ago. But… anyone with a post-secondary education should be getting this without having to take a single course!
The point being, if all this stuff is really being done by the government – and the evidence is overwhelming – from the ammo purchases to the dismantling of our liberties, from the creation of a nightmare totalitarian police state system to the preparation of concentration camps for American dissidents – this should be awakening patriots to the need to join the constitutional militia in their state, or at least becoming an active material supporter. Otherwise, we can expect to see these prisoner transports with depressing frequency!
At what point are Americans willing to stand up and fight against tyranny with arms and sweat rather than soda and keyboard? We are told by the timid and the collaborator that we ‘must never resort to violence’, yet violence is already being done to us! The great 19th century abolitionist, Frederick Douglass, said famously: “The limits of tyranny are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” So, how much tyranny are YOU willing to endure? How much tyranny are you willing to bequeath to your children – and their children?
One final point – the enemies of liberty control our society’s institutions, but most important, they have control over the results of elections. As Joseph Stalin noted, “It’s not who votes that counts, but rather who counts the votes”. Do you expect to achieve change peacefully when they control all the mechanisms you would use to accomplish that? What can you expect to do when every avenue of redress is denied to you? John F. Kennedy said “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable”. To steal a phrase from civil rights figure Malcolm X, “It’s either the ballot or the bullet”. But this is not a call to overthrow our lawful government; it has in fact already been overthrown. Nothing in government today operates according to the Constitution, and nothing in government today would be recognizable to our nation’s founding fathers – at least as far as the Constitution is concerned. However, the founders would nonetheless recognize our government for what it is… and what it IS …is tyranny writ large. And resistance to tyranny is obedience to God, according to Thomas Jefferson, author of our Declaration of Independence. If you truly want to save America – not the material America, that’s already collapsing – but save the thing about America that makes America great, then you must be prepared to FIGHT for Liberty.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” (Jefferson) …preferably tyrants, but it’s also past time.
Thank you for this informative reply William, and for your interest in the Save America Foundation.
Thank You, sir, for replying! And be assured I will definitely check it all out!
HYPERBOLE GUYS: GO SEE THE WAY HONDA PROTECTS ITS TRANSPORTS.
http://gas2.org/2008/06/19/honda-deploys-fleet-of-auto-max-railcars-to-ship-cars-and-trucks-to-market/
My 2 cents worth. I have spent some time reading about the various things the government is doing. My belief is the government is preparing for mass civil unrest. I think it’s easy for folks to get concerned/worried/scared of ulterior motives. After much thought and analysis I came up with another possibility. I do believe we are in a precarious place in our country’s state of being. I also believe the government is more aware of this than most. I feel if we have a currency crisis (or another type of disruption) we may experience mass civil unrest. I think the biggest potential for unrest will be major cities. If there are any types of shortages (food, utilities) things could get ugly very quickly. I personally believe the government is preparing to do what they can to preserve order in such a scenario. Think what you would do if you were in charge and you were aware that the possibility of such a scenario was growing. Imagine a major city with millions of people in desperation. What would you do? How would you prepare to maintain peace and control of such a situation. I know many folks will discredit my theory (because it does not fit the “government is trying to take us out line of thinking”) but I think most folks after some deliberation will come to the same conclusions. I bring all this up because if such a scenario did play out how do we protect ourselves and our families. There are many informative sites dedicated to just that so I will not try to pretend to be an authority on the subject. But I would encourage folks to spend some time playing out the possible events and position themselves in a way to survive them.
Your opinion stating rail cars would be inefficient and a target for opposition because rail lines would be an easy target, is inaccurate. I do not know if these rail cars exist but if the cars have beheading devices in them, they would not need to transport persons anywhere. these cars could be moved by rail only one time to positions throughout the country and once in place, do not need to move persons anywhere. they can simply be used as a holding cell while putting people to death.
As far as the three tiered automobile carriers, why are they not moving cars? Trains pass through my town constantly while transporting automobiles from the ports of Fort Lauderdale and Miami and I have not seen a single 3 tiered car carrier. Furthermore, automobile carrying train cars are perforated and you can see through them.
You do realize that these railcars are used to transport automobiles, right? And that the “shackles” are the tiedown points to keep those vehicles from moving in transit? Nowhere in your report do you mention the actual use for these railcars, that’s why I figured I’d point it out. Also, autoracks (this what they’re called outside the conspiracy theory world) tend to sit stored during auto factory downtime, especially post-recession where less automobiles are being produced. In fact, since 2008 many of these, uh, “boxcars” have been scrapped, so I’m not sure where your figure of 100,000 new cars comes from- the supply well met the demand before any mythical orders from the government. I realize this is far less glamorous reality than the one you put forth, and for that I apologize, but the world of railroading is far less nefarious than you think, and I’m not even going to touch all that Beech Grove nonsense!
And the world is flat and Obama is not a Marxist! Whatever!
And the world is flat and Obama is not a Marxist! Whatever!
If they r jst boxcars y is there a beheader n them??
I did business with a gentleman in CO. I am in TN. He said he had talked to welders who welded in the shackles as he is a building contractor. He was told they were welded in allowing you to stand as close as they could cram people in. He went to a republican breakfast 2 weeks ago and called me. Their guest speaker was the man who owns the company who makes the drones. He said the reason for the change on ultra lite altitudes was because they were afraid of them hitting each other. He said drones had been watching the US in certain areas for about 10 yrs. & they had a 120# 1 that is launched from a small plane and has a 22 mag. mini gun & can sweep down like a hawk and kill anyone. Their controllers could handle 10 drones at a time.
I have done business with a gentleman who was in the Marines for 9 yrs and was in Iraq. His MOS was explosive expert and his job was disarming IED’s. He tour was up & he was sent to the States to Fort Polk to learn about new IED’s & yes, there was a school there but most of the course was training how to disarm civilian’s . He was going to re-up but ask for his discharge & came home. He told me it scared him so bad he wanted out so he could be home to protect his family.I have done a lot of business with him & he is very honest. He also said there were a lot of Russian troops training.
You go read page 107 of Obama Care & it becomes clear what the gov. is up to. We will be enemies of the state & will be shipped to FEMA camps or killed. The US is about to vanish as we know it and they intend Muslims to be in control. It scares me to death and we need to be preparing